When we drive to the finish well usually get on the course, because were badged up to do it, and then make notes. Some people take offence for the strangest reasons. Always the hardest and most challenging role in such types of games is of a cycling commentator. You must invest in an alarm upgrade to BT Redcare. The walls do move when they pile in too. De Gendt, ganador de la primera etapa de la Volta 2019. Kirby laughs. It is a free-for-all. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. It is all kinds of stuff. In the early 1990's he became a freelance commentator. ), there is a thread in the. I agree listening to the mans over stressed enthusiasm really gets on my nerves. I could paint the Galibier and Ventoux and even some of the rarer mountains by memory. They only received compensation a couple of years later. We have a quiet conversation about who is going to win today. There are already calls for a convening of UCI protocol committee so they can start to get some proper rules together about it. For every Nicolas Roche or Steve Cummings great characters, totally locked down there are some savage bastards out there, and we love them all. And then, of course, there are the flat stages and the sprint finishes. Among the big names the Belgian put time into today were Alejandro Valverde, fourth overall and 2 minutes 56 second down in fourth place overall, and Team Skys Egan Bernal, a further 1 second back. His cycling life began during his students days, when he cobbled togethera few hundred quidoff the back of a hard winter selling hats (long story) and bought hisfirst road bike - a Trek 1.1 that was quickly relegated to winter steed, before it was sadlypinched a few years later. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby has called for action to regulate the role of motor vehicles in the sport following the tragic death of Belgium's Antoine Demoitie, who was. All rights reserved. "Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis," says Carlton Kirby, principal commentator for Eurosport's cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. You can also sometimes find your hotel is one or two hours away. Whilst im not a great fan of Carlton Kirkby I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. Bit harsh, Quigley is a lot more knowledgeable. Twaddle. He is rubbish Eurosport have many other far better options we need a decent commentator not Carltons partridge esque musings. He further says, "In tennis, you never talk through a point because the crowd doesn't. It just stays online forever. Kirbys Knowledge and Enthusiasm on the Mic is Unparalleled, When Kirby explains the difficult process of commentating on cycling, Michael Matthews powers to Bretagne Classic victory, Bora-hansgrohe riders false positive raises new doubts over accuracy of COVID-19 testing, Giro dItalia, Milan-San Remo under threat of cancellation due to coronavirus, Ewan storms to victory on stage 2 of UAE Tour. Well ride that sympathy and see how far it takes us up the beach. And, one can understand the enthusiasm that has kept him going despite the setbacks and even criticism from people. And then on day one on Utah beach..boom..Cavendish stuns the previously unbeatable German racer. (PS If there's anything here about donating, that's the website host - nothing to do with this petition - there is nothing to donate to. You get the mood of the crowd, and of the press. Shouldnt be that hard to organise with so many people here able to talk eloquently and intelligently for 4 hours. Riders who perhaps finished tenth on a day will be livid that we didnt eulogise about them, but Im sorry, I was talking about the person who finished first. Thanks to all who have signed. One of the worlds most iconic cycling brands appears set to launch an e-bike. and apologises to those who don't. 00:04:00, 29/05/2020 at 08:52 Related Kittel moves first into Cavendish, who follows the white line. Thats one of the vagrancies of Eurosport.. But he's British and that's all that matters to Kirby. I don't think much does get through to him, I really wish it did. He also never tells you who the riders on screen are - and if he does, he's usually wrong. This is the video I showed Trinity School in Lewisham this morning. He was hinting today that he would be commentating on Paris-Roubaix (just after he said that Froome was 'over-raced' this year), so I'd be grateful if as many people as possible could comment/vote before it is too late: Mmmmm, unfortunately, the suggested replacement is just as clueless, just quieter. He is thinking of five wins, and is finally allowing himself to believe he is going to reach the all-time record of the Belgian all-rounder Eddy Merckx's record for stage wins of 34. CK: You need the details. I'm constantly berating or pointing out the danger of the motorcycle. At least he can string a sentence together and he seems to bring good comments out of Backstedt. Antoine Demoitie tragically died after being hit by a motorbike. Doesn't look that pretty, cable tied, very practical. Fully agree Kirby is the most irritable commentator ever. Hosted by Duncan Steer. 2023 Eurosport, a Warner Bros. Also, Kirby criticises riders in almost every race. His voice tends to wake me up from my nap when something happens. You have your usual office equipment, coffee machine, and sandwich machine. The schedule and time duration work differently for every sport. Eurosport cant get away with this !! To my mind, the motorised vehicles are getting far too close, a point I continue to pick up on commentary. It was almost featureless and the riders would not engage in it at all. CK:Its pretty bleak. I could get 20 minutes of commentary out of dinner last night. He spoils everyones enjoyment of the race with his silly so called jokes and rubbish talk. You can use your lens. Theyre the best stages, and the most exciting ones, but often as a commentator the days you take the most pride in are actually the ones where absolutely sod all has happened! For mine, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. And, he is right about it. Would the football fans be subjected to him commentating on the football matches ? I make notes of the corners, pinch points, danger points, acceleration points, attack points all of those things.. Kirby has more than two decades as a commentatorbehind him and, alongside Irish legend Sean Kelly, has been back at the Tour de France this year calling the action from Utrecht through to Paris. #cycling @carltonkirby whatsonreading.com Carlton Kirby True Tales of the Tour de France | What's On Reading Baseless. It is guys sitting on a motorbike who pull up alongside a cyclist and say 'how are you doing?'. We saw that on the Tour of Catalunya - a useless piece of motorcycle protocol. There are several fan forums that constantly try to have him removed from Eurosport and even made a Carlton Kirby petition their demands on the grounds of inane chatter, terrible jokes, and unnecessary screaming. In their eyes, he is one of the worst cycling commentators. The major problem with this is that you cannot follow a race he is commentating on unless you are watching it - i.e. One example of his commentary, from 11/3/21 Tirreno-Adriatico: Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'. So, what is Scottish Cycling / British Cycling doing about this? He has poor knowledge and really just annoys everyone. Ill ring someone up on-site to talk to them. Hes done it four times, and I think he might want to do it again on the Champs-lyses. Get rid. So, you have to ask yourself: What is different, and why is it worth it to actually go on-site? Its the constant attempts at humour, then the giggling at his own in-jokes that has me reaching for the mute button. This latest incident proves exactly that. I often moan about Kirby myself, but I don't. If it goes on for two or three years, then people will notice because the freshness of what is in our heads will ebb. How can someone who watches so much cycling know so little? Partly, of course, that's his job - but if you give it out, you have to take it. I don't have anything against him personally, but he doesn't seem to get the basics of the sport. As for the Sky Team Fans member - you wouldnt actually be Mr Kirby would you ???? After my tweet he at least toned that down. Thankfully, no tree roots to overcome. He clearly thinks he's the star of the show. It is crazy. We met a young boy and young girl who recently lost their mum, and its really sad when you see that side of it. Eurosport is transmitting the same amount of races as any standard european tv channel - go to Italy where it is their number 2 sport next to football - they dont struggle for professional sports commentators. There are no gaps you might shut up for five seconds or so to listen to the crowd, but thats it.. View our media pack. The problem is that social media has allowed anyone and everyone to voice their opinion, regardless of their credibility. A piece of the petition has gained over 542 signatures demanding the removal of Carlton Kirby from Eurosports, citing Unnecessary Screaming, Terrible Jokes as one of the biggest downsides. De Gendt, Volta 2019 Stage 1 winner. VeloNews: Whats the biggest difference for you when youre commentating on a race from back home, instead of attending the event? pic.twitter.com/fFcEf0AgHK, Volta a Catalunya (@VoltaCatalunya) March 25, 2019. To my mind, the motorcycles are the most dangerous because they have the least ability to stop. I remember being impressed during the Giro at his ability to identify riders. And we have managed to cover his view on it. Log in or register to join the conversation. The breaks going to go up the road, theyre going to be allowed anything up to 15 minutes of an advantage and everyone else is just having a chat including us., All the other commentators from all the other nations and all their information are in the same room, so you often get people saying: Have you heard this?, with loads of things to share. Yep I always watch the ITV coverage if possible - even if that means missing the stage live and watching the highlights package (like the vuelta). It was a dreadfully high price to pay in my opinion to high but the suffering couldnt go on. I like Carlton too, not as much as Harmon, granted, but I've given up on him coming back. Juan Antonio Flecha and Johnny Hoogerland were sent into barbed wire on the Tour de France because the France TV van was about to hit a tree having a run out of road, but took the softer option of the riders. VN:When youre at the race, who are you talking to regularly to get your intel for the broadcast? When youre on-site, even though youre there, youre still watching a monitor, Kirby says. Even my partner, who doesn't watch cycling, could tell who had won. if many people would do this via twitter it could at least give a sign. Personally I think Harmon and Brian Smith are the best team. I like him. Yes Harmon is okay and like I said - at least he does his homework on the teams and riders and hangs on every word uttered by Sean Kellyas though he is keen to learn the professional circuit. On rest days we circulate to meet with everybody. Carlton Kirby: No matter if youre in a mobile unit at the finish, or in a studio with air conditioning and a coffee machine, youre doing the same thing, the view out the window is just different. You always get letters or emails from people who really enjoyed your commentary, but youll always get those who hate every fibre of your being.. Helen Blackman (@HelenBlackman) March 24, 2019. You must log in or register to reply here. Yeah he does. The One Subscription to Fuel All Your Adventures. I am very sorry but he is just nowhere near the standards of messrs. Liggett, Boulting, Miller and Hatch. A lot of these guys seems to have free rein on what they are doing. We cant do that when hes at his house and Im at mine. We've asked Colnago for more details but they just shrugged their shoulders in reply. . Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. Carlton learnt his trade as a commentator in Motorsport and Speedway while the holy trinity of Phil Ligget (ITV), David 'Duffers' Duffield (Eurosport) and Hugh Porter (BBC) had all the cycling tied up between them. All crescendo sports deserve to be treated as such. They basically work on the principle that people watching cycling in english are only interested in english speaking riders. This person has obviously just seen red, Ive got right of way, Im going to go, and you might have right of way technically whether you do or dont is often debatable but it doesnt give you the right to smash someone and potentially kill someone, which is what is going to happen if you run someone off their bike. There must be so many ex-pro riders out there who would give valuable commentary and insight into the races. But there are always other lines to cross, and he just loves collecting these plaudits and the deserved success coming his way is just brilliant. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week. They seem to think that it is enough to just talk about english speaking riders, or to 'emote' any time there is a crash, or a difficult corner. American racers headed to Italy chime in. He is now only four short. During a sprint stage, every turn is important, and sometimes Ill walk the final approach with [commentator] Sean Kelly, and there will be no need to even take notes, because hell just say, Oh, this will be shit. You can read an off-camber turn when youre standing on it, and see the attack points when youre going up and down a mountain. As for Kirby - its the arrogance of the bloke - does he think his viewers are 10 year olds who know NOTHING about cycling. Best known for his work on Eurosport, his voice has also appeared on BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Motors TV, Cycling TV, Speed Channel USA, ABC Australia, SABC South Africa, Canal Plus France, Canal France International and more. join Outside+. The concern of course is how much is this going to take out of him before he begins preparations for the Olympic Games next month? Without any editing, moderation, or credibility, it is all out in the name of fate. It is not so bad if they are in front because the rider can tell the motorbike to go away, but if it is trailing the rider and the rider comes off, there is always the possibility of impact. Simon Yates drops back to the Peloton in the last 2km - Carlton Kirby: 'Yates has decided this isn't worth the candle' - i.e. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 2.4K views, 20 likes, 3 loves, 5 comments, 3 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Eurosport: "The pictures were all over the news. Carlton Kirby: What inspired Chris Froome's golden era Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby analyses Chris Froome's performance in winning a fourth Tour de France. She got hit by a car and thats someones mum, not just a cyclist. At the moment I turn up to a large building that has been stripped of staff, and there are just 16 people in the building. What a load of rubbish - Team Sky Fan !! While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. Hosted by Duncan Steer Carlton Kirby's Cycling Lock-In Radio Days Events Sports NOV 24, 2021 London live show preview! Some of which have been admitted, some of which weren't. As well as sports commentary his voiceover work includes corporate videos and feature films as well as radio and television advertising. Minutes later, Sean Kelly points out that Padun is 'not getting around the corners well not comfortable whatsoever on the descent'. I think people will appreciate what were trying to deal with. . I can walk or drive the technical approach to the finish, which is gold. Especially on the downhill runs which is a crazy situation. To know that, you simply have to do a Google Search and you will know why. Its the art of illusion. We will never sell your data and you'll only get messages from us and our partners whose products and services we think you'll enjoy. He's probably too much of a joker,not serious enough, but has a 'springy' voice which is good to listen to. I do love the sport because its a crescendo sport. Seriously. Ill be making notes when Sean Kellys driving, which can be a difficult thing! I'm not sure if it was security, medical or a photographer who hit him, but essentially there was braking with four riders on the ground and the bike flipped before landing on the riders. But, being in the studio means there is a considerable loss of interaction. A new bike is coming very soon! When youre part of the race caravan, all you talk about is the race. I like Kelly just out of respect more than anything. Can you at least extend our premium subscriptions so we can play all races, until you fix the issue? There is no editing process, except between the brain and the larynx. There are no points for each turn. Joe Robinson. You only need to listen to him to get that he has no time for Johnny Foreigner. Kirby has more than two decades as a. Now it is live pictures going onto blogs, stream TV pictures. In the second episode of Story Time with Carlton Kirby, the Eurosport commentator reads an excerpt from his book (Magic Spanner) about how British cycling caused a seismic change in the. For example, I know that Jakob Fuglsangs last name means bird song, which is a nice little thing. Essentially, there needs to be some sort of schooling or protocol coming from the International Cycling Union that has a proficiency test for these guys. Nonetheless, one other thing that Kirby believes, sets the very best apart is commitment. But not today in the Vuelta or yesterday, and this is the first time I have heard Kirby commentating. Read our full Privacy Policy as well as Terms & Conditions. And his constant er, er, erms.. all the time were extremely irritating. You are as ill informed as Kirby. I would rather have the sound off than listen to his pathetic attempts to link words and phrases together rather than comment on the racing (as opposed to being able to identify riders) about which he knows precious little. Here they are listed below, but we already know there will be one change - Team Sky will be racing as Team Ineos, with the Tour de Yorkshire being its first race following the management company's sale to the petrochemical business. A close study of the final 20 kilometres follows, picking out key hazardslike pinch points, street furniture and likely attack points, before the repeating the study in the car alongside King Kelly as the pair make their way to the commentary point at the stage finish. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. Join Outside+ to get complete access to exclusive content on VeloNews, training plans for road and gravel, and more. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. Eurosport is a group of pay television networks in Europe and parts of Asia. Kirby has however found his own distinctive and unique style which has brilliantly worked for him all these years. ), there is a thread in the Eurosport 'comments and suggestions' forum requesting that he be removed from the roster. Arriving at road.cc in 2017 via 220 Triathlon Magazine, Jack dipped his toe in most jobs on the site and over ateBikeTips before being namedthe new editor of road.cc in 2020, much to his surprise. When asked about the criticism, Kirby opined Its not like the written press where you can write something out and finesse it and shave it, I dont have that gift. He kept on saying, Its gone, its irretrievable.
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