I would expect more from the Star Trek crowd, which is usually quite enlightened. She is perhaps, the most human character on the show. Some of us dont grasp the very basic foundation of what Star Trek is all about!? As soon as she was, they should have rewritten Tilly from being a cadet to being a lieutenant or something. I can see myself having a few bottles of synthehol with him. She let go in S4 of her parents expectations and embraced a new purpose. Contents 1 Early life 2 Starfleet career 2.1 USS Discovery 2.1.1 The war 2.1.2 Post-war 2.1.3 32nd century 3 Personal relationships 3.1 Friendships Plus, TNG literally had a therapist as part of the bridge crew. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. Thank you for your counter opinion. With predictive spelling and multiple languages available, incorrect word choice is a constant threat even when one does type in the correct word. GD, what shoes is David wearing in those pics? Miss Wiseman F those fake Trekkies/Treksters keep acting your ass off. That was why she was never in uniform the first few seasons. It always cracks me up when people say that they hate Tilly. And to be honest, her character has regressed significantly over the past few years. Imo, this show tries so overly hard to be socially progressive, its the very thing that makes it a turn-off. The Delta Quadrant is a dangerous place, and the remnants of species and societies that survived around the edges of the Borg network and incursions were harsh and justifiably skeptical of the Federations. You can start with those or the later books in the Time to sequence without significant confusion. This was her character and then had perhaps one or two incidents where she became a little more focused and then off screen came back a different person. And I just really love having Janeway back. Maybe its just me, but I dont really care about women or mens weight on TV shows, I dont care for negative comments on them by haters, but neither do I care for the actors/actresses making such a whiney big deal about it. As a Black girl, I felt I was supposed to look this way. This sounds kind of racist. Mary Wiseman: We dont have that many scenes together but theres a lot of tension between us just as actors and personalities. I like her personality though, mostly. all the outfits here are golden IMO but those shoes murder! Theres a difference between celebrating obesity and accepting individual human beings, treating them as human beings, and not targeting them specifically for emotional harassment. Is Mary Wiseman Pregnant? Weight Gain And Pregnancy Rumor Of The Typical. Its far from just the United States or even just affluent countries. Mary's fans are curious to know if she is indeed expecting a little one but the rumors are false. I think theres room for it. TrekMovie.com is not endorsed, sponsored or affiliated with CBS Studios Inc., Paramount Pictures Corp. or the Star Trek franchise. Xanadu? Fortunately, more than 30 years ago I was encouraged to focus on the health aspects of eating well and training hard and not the aesthetics. Picard is the third Kurtzman Production. That way she wont get the appearance she does now of jumping over more experienced officers and seeming to just get ahead because shes Sarus favorite. This is rare case were I actually agree with Lorma. The Tilly we saw as Earth, check that United (eyeroll) Earth was being evacuated is NOT the same Tilly we saw for the previous 40+ episodes. Sonequa Martin-Green as Burnham hugging Mary Wiseman as Tilly in Coming Home. Some folks here like this nu trek because it lowered standards to make them feel better about themselves. Let it die. Shes changed. The actress also discussed how Killy inspires some fans: Killy is somebody whos very important to a lot of fans, especially my curvy women out there who like to see another full-figured, fat, curvy, chunky woman get to feel powerful and use that size to command authority, said Wiseman. But I really do like Book a lot! Sylvia Tilly was an ambitious female Human Starfleet officer who lived during the mid- 23rd century. I always have to correct it, so its not terribly efficient. I KNOW, people say they are great, I was too focused on Star Trek when those were airing, but I might try and give the original show a shot one day. Yes, she was a therapist that say patients in her office but her betazoid abilities aided Picard. There really are some of the DS9 authors that are stronger and some that tend to tell too much and show to little in their writing in my view. Everyone has their gifts. And for your own gain, right? This is not a good show and not a good Star Trek Show too. I tried watching Star Trek Discovery but can't anymore. I find it to be Maybe Saru wont be on the ship as much but Im guessing they are going the same direction. And now, with only three years under her belt in the field, From future Starfleets POV, thats 900 years! I look at Disco as adding a new flavor to the existing universe. But I think one of the things that leaves everyone feeling unmoored in this situation is they dont even know how to use their skills to deal with this because its something theyve never seen before, and they cant predict it, they dont know by which rules its operating, and how to even engage. Tilly looks great and her weight is a not a issue. You misunderstood. As you put it: I love how Disco has put the human back into the human experience. And I agree wholeheartedly. "Hope springs eternal" was the central thesis for Star Trek: Discovery's Season 4 finale . Yet, she is. Editor's note, 23 Dec 2020: If you like Wiseman's interview here, then you should also check out interviewer Dawn Ennis's other work. Her empathic abilities work via viewscreens? By indicating that shes not ashamed of her body? Plus, TNG literally had a therapist as part of the bridge crew. I see those things and they hurt me because Im a person. The writing for him is trying in season 1, but from Samaritan Snare onwards I actually think hes kinda endearing and has decent utility. I think Mary Wiseman is a fantastic actress..the writing for Tilly is an abomination. Is Tilly (actress) pregnant or unwell?? - The Trek BBS That is not anything to diss. Personally I dont find that inspiring in any way whatsoever. Everybody loves is an idiom, it should never be taken as a strict statement. Did Star Trek: Discovery Just Lay The Groundwork For A New Spinoff? But Barclay is just irritating as hell. I feel bad saying this but Ive never a read a Star Trek novel in my life lol. Mary Wiseman: I wish there maybe in the future theres room for some protective best friend/boyfriend energy. Barclays ticks do get really annoying. He was in the Travis Mayweather category. 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There are a number of places you can receive professional help and I strongly recommend you seek that help. He was non-military, the same height as me, and easily weighed 300#. I agree! There are a lot of people in the comments hating, but in a franchise that includes Neelix, Wesley Crusher, Naomi Wildman, Kes, and Lwaxana Troi, Tilly is frankly nowhere near as annoying as those other characters. Control over ones own body is the most basic freedom we should have. You can absolutely argue that DISCO incorporates too much emotion with their characters (something I agree with to an extent), but I do appreciate how much more real these characters feel compared to past characters (especially in the early seasons of TNG). In the latest Star Trek: Discovery episode, Sylvia Tilly ( Mary Wiseman) was tasked with . Be sure to watch Mary Wiseman "Killying it" as Ensign Sylvia Tilly on Star Trek: Discovery. She is a real girl. He has been part of the Litverse writers room run by Pocket Books and knows not only Beyers works but the books written by others in great detail, and across all eras. And a. Lwaxana Troi, Tilly is frankly nowhere near as annoying as those other characters. 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She is most recognized for her roles in the science fiction drama series Star Trek: Discovery on Paramount+, where she first played Cadet, then Ensign, and finally . And Books starshipthink of it as Star Treks answer to the Astro Megaship from Power Rangers in Space. She also revealed some of her inspirations for this version of Tilly: There is a little Azula from Avatar: The Last Airbender in there. It makes sense there would be and that they be a part of the medical team. Its all pretty subjective. Youre saying she isnt believeable because she sounds like she has a 21st century *accent*? Episodes will be. Mary Wiseman is confirmed to return as Sylvia Tilly in Star Trek: Discovery season 5, although whether she rejoins the crew or continues at Starfleet Academy and only interjects occasionally remains unknown. She wrote ten books based around this concept and still writing them. She went away and supposedly became an amazing well rounded person. Mary Wiseman: That was a really good teaser. Keep up with all the news and reviews from the newStar Trek Universe on TV at TrekMovie.com. You know what, fvck you, Vulcan Soul. Age is affecting my memory haha. Good for Mary! (laughs). Is Tilly leaving Discovery? - Everycareinternational.com And now, with only three years under her belt in the field, only two of which were as a ranked officer, they think shes somehow ready to train the next generation of recruits?! Thanks for the correction and yes that is correct. 'Star Trek: Discovery' Theory: There Is Something About Grudge He was a cool character and one of the best things about season 3. KevinB: Oh, I agree with you, in the sense that nothing is perfect and there are flaws and issues here and there. Speaking to Glamour UK, Sonequa Martin-Green revealed that she has dealt with body image issues too: Back in the mid-to-late eighties, early nineties, everything I saw, with hip hop, was all curvy, curvy, big butt, she recalls. Even Picard has his own show. Gee, so some Trek fans can be @$$holes. Thats just a matter of preference. Like a lot of people, she pivoted and found herself in a new role as teacher. 89. And it could fit nicely with Chakotays story on the show and that hes also in the DQ for the mission and now has to find the ship. Why wouldnt someone want to be more like that? Fan favourite is a bit of a stretch..quite possibly the most irritating character in Trek history Key difference in thinking, and it makes all the difference in the big picture! Those b@stards, however, totally killed Landry )Cuddles with @actordougjones and @davbentom These men are nothing short of hereoic in prosthetics all day e'reday. )Granted, I think the special effects, space battles, bizarre technology and explosions are the proverbial tail wagging the dog, but thats always been the case, and is increasingly expected in these post-Star Wars, high tech decades. With his skill and abilities, we will see how he may use them in a way that may affect his relationship with Michael Burnham. Lwaxana sometimes I dont mind her simply because she puts Picard and Odo on their back feet, but she was very OTT on shows that didnt really have a lot of OTT characters, and there was little reason for her to keep appearing on DS9 beyond reverence towards Majel Barrett. I gave this dumpster fire of far left propaganda 4 seasons. Its so brutal. Overall, I like the fun character of Tilly (too bad the writers room made her first officer). That is why you never saw councelors on any other class ship. | March 22, 2022 | Such use is more overt in DISCO, but it is by no means out of the ordinary. But to play the Devils Advocate here for a moment Tilly as she was originally presented and continued to be for quite some time is not something most women would aspire to be I should think. DSC had many issues at the beginning. Well, Renos really more engineering. If I was a public figure I would do zero social media, ignore the internet, cash my massive paychecks, sign autographs for real in-person fans I meet, and be so thankful Im not working in a grunt job making minimum wage. I admit, has been a roller coaster between each season. I think the ship can handle a little chonk. What accent? By existing? Sometimes it worked over amazing distances other times not. :). Just when it looks like the character has finally grown as a person and doing her own thing, comes right back. The Berman era had specific ideas about things like accents and music that kind of locked it into something fairly homogeneous. The moment they decided to incorporate a new character with basically the same characteristics (a young, socially awkward, but very smart ensign) they ruined Tilly. Just like every other character in a show that generally is badly written. What is wrong, pretty bad to read, is fans mocking the actors, it is actually very sexist, not cool. This show has been for a niche of Trek fandom not the mainstream. Star Trek: Discovery Boss Explains That Tilly Reveal - Yahoo! News Sick and tired of T and A being the main focus. In general, the Litverse kicks off with the TNG A Time to series that fills in events between the movies Insurrection and Nemesis. That said, I know people can be cruel and I am even worried bringing up this topic for fear of the idiot fringe piling on, but I hope Mary Wiseman is okay or has a good reason for her weight gain since S1. I suppose thats why some places are rising and others are very visibly in decline. We have no information that Beyer consults in this show. There is a great scene back in S1 when Tilly and Burnham are doing cardio training and post workout are eating their protien, carbs and fat nutrition, something that the body requires after a hard cardio workout. Im not the idiot fringe but her weight is none of our business (and, also, she had a baby before S3, I believe). In season one and early season two, I was finding it credible as a case of someone who had unresolved PTSD and was unmoored from the culture that had encouraged her to supress her trauma. Two Kelpians and a Disco Kenny (Zero Kelpians were harmed during this shoot. You cant be a Star Trek fan and also be a racist or a body shamer. Mary Wiseman and David Ajala with their co-stars Wilson Cruz, Sonequa Martin-Green, Blu del Barrio, and Anthony Rapp at NYCC 2021, (Trailer also available for international viewers onInstagramandstartrek.com). Star Trek: Discovery's Mary Wiseman and David Ajala Dish and Discuss One reason why I think people gravitated towards Trip the most on Enterprise was that the combination of writing and performances created one of the most believable humans in Star Trek this side of Dr. McCoy and Chief OBrien. Do I want to be Sisko or Picard or Archer then most likely yes. And thats a healthy outlook. Tilly once thought being captain was her biggest dream, but after a . By: Laurie Ulster Finally, Starfleet isn't a military organisation or an army. Theres even a scene where she pretty much turns to the camera and says that shell stay till the very end. Even though he is one of the worst characters in Trek, he was the main focus in arguably the best episode of Voyager: Timeless. It is incredibly bad and is a publicly dangerous message to be sending. Its a problem in even some least developed countries now. David Ajala: Yeah. But Tilly and the nervous mess Adira has devolved into? Tillys journey has helped me over the last few years. Most of what she did was convey the amazingly obvious like offering such useful insights such as, Hes concealing something but I dont know what. And her abilities were never fully defined. There is such a difference between having criticisms of the way the characters are written and criticizing the actors performance/craft and their leadership in the company. I realize there are people who like his quirks. So when Tilly became a teacher I was like, freaky coincidence but perfect!). I let go of my preconceptions about what star trek is. I hope that Wiseman uses that info into the future because it does work for fat burning and muscle building. Acceptance? But how the women look?! IMHO, if she usually eats well, trains and commits to staying healthy, then life can be a lot of fun leading an active adventurous life while still enjoying food and fine dining and it is irrelevant what people say about her looks. 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No one of my Trekkie friends, growing up with TNG watch this anymore. At the other end, underweight is also unhealthy and associated with other risks, but gets less negative attention in entertainment. Did Tilly on Discovery gain weight? I hope were able to explore it because theres potential for great levity, but then also really important conversations to be had because when you care about someone you dont want to see them go through pain, and I can see completely how Tilly will be very protective of Michael Burnham. The reed-thin part sometimes involves unhealthy behaviors. Mention one thing or person loved by EVERYBODY. Funny enough, I have never had a problem with Wesley. She cant control her weight. David Ajala: I would be very dangerous. Where I live people compete on the merits. I mean, there could have been but it was never seen or talked about. (80's for ya) Given all the trouble the crew got into, Im sure they needed one on the ship. (Hey, Im likely one of the oldest people here, and its too easy/lazy to remain stuck in the 1960s and 70s! For people who dont know, it had to do with Voyager leading a fleet of ships going back to the Delta Quadrant a few years after Voyager arrived home. Hopefully next season they will be given more development. I thought her arc was going to end with her being booted from the service for repeatedly failing physical fitness tests? Since this is a show for kids and its not directly focused on the Voyager characters (at least not yet ;)), obviously I dont really expect any of the bigger plot lines from those books to happen; but it would be cool if the basic idea stuck around and that the Protostar was part of a long term mission of advance starfleet ships heading back to the DQ for study. But the characters are pitch perfect. If you read what Mary and Sonequa are saying, they arent promoting any particular body style or fitness choice, just that they are as they are and only they have the right to choose how that should be. To me, at least. Tilly accepts herself but she rises to challenges, leads in a crisis, is there for her friends but still explores what she wants for *herself*, and mentors others to help them grow! Then there are many women like Sonequa, who feel theyre too skinny. Just mentioning few of their values. Tilly appears twice in the Star Trek: Discovery season 5 trailer. I agree 100%. All Access Star Trek Podcast, Discovery, DS9, Lower Decks, Section 31, Star Trek 4, Star Trek: Picard, Star Trek: Prodigy, Strange New Worlds. But its at least nice they came to their senses with that ridiculous story turn (unlike Kirk). Unity? WTF this is why Ive been following Star Trek since the original in 1967 when I saw Nichelle Nichols. Is Tilly On Star Trek Discovery Pregnant? - Show Biz Corner She isnt back on Discovery. In fact, thats all the Discovery crew is qualified as in the 32nd century. I guess making Tilly first officer isnt anywhere close to ridiculous as making KT Kirk a Captain who was still a cadet and had probably spent 2 weeks in space before he got the jobbut its pretty damn close. And the only family she has is on that ship. Why is Tilly fatter than others? : r/StarTrekDiscovery - reddit Im relieved to say I have no idea how that feels, and its something I cant even stomach thinking about, frankly. Star Trek is supposed to be socially progressive but this show went too far. I do not endorse body-shaming in any way, as I was bullied as a kid years ago. Its this kind of nonsense that ruins Discovery. While Im excited to get back to the 32nd century and see whats changed since season 3 Im still not excited for the season itself. :P (I know the whole thing of having a *ships* councilor is inherently different from what real therapists do on dry land, but yeah its super weird. Thats not good writing, its oandering fan fiction, Starfleet is not military. Fans need to stop being rude and act like gentlemen for once. Shes one of the shows most divisive characters. 'Star Trek: Discovery' Season 4 Episode 13 Recap: A - TVLine Tilly, played by Mary Wiseman on Star Trek Discovery is not pregnant. Its been a continuing book series since 2009 and still going. I like Tilly but shes not my favourite character. I think that in a world thats so repressed and violent, violence becomes these peoples only outlet for pleasure and release. David Ajala: Yeah, absolutely. Bad writing, illogical story arcs, unbalanced tempo, underdeveloped characters or sudden jumps in character development. There are characters you really cherish and others that are fun but ultimately nothing special.
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